Eu4 protestant vs reformed. For Great Britain, Scandinavia or any HRE member I always go Protestant. I never got Anglican and I was wondering if it's worth it outside of roleplaying. A Catholic Italy or a Protestant/Reformed one? I know you get the buffs from the reformation religions, but is the Papacy The goal is to stop internal wars with protestants and make your Protestant prince number high. Protestant give better miscellaneus like dev ,conversion or colonization. Reformed for those sweet trade ducats. Protestant or Reformed? Im currently thinking of going for Reformed for the morale bonus since protestant doesnt offer much military wise. As Prussia, you don't need that extra morale edge, and you probably are making more money from tax and production anyway. 5% discipline + free bonus of your choosing. Personally I think Catholic is stronger, but Protestant is more reliable and versatile, while Reformed is straight up lacking compared to the two, so far noone convinced me otherwise, so I I prefer protestant for Prussia too. 2 have been out for a while, I'm wondering how the newly-buffed Protestant religion compares to Reformed. If you're going late colonial with the Dutch, Reformed tolerance To convert to Reformed, you will have to wait until the faith is enabled, which will happen somewhere around two decades after Protestantism appears. This event [1] starts the Protestant Reformation, i. And as the Netherland you don't really In the days of old of EU franchise, dozens of Protestant Faiths were represented by two religions: Protestant and Reformed. It's the go-to for We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. It's Reformed is a lot better than many religions, for example it's way better than any Buddhist faith, Ibadi, or any Pagan faith. Reformed gives you 10% land morale (and also 10% naval morale, but who gives a shit?), whereas Protestant gives you 5% morale + 2. Make Catholic, Protestant, and Reformed countries see Anglicans as "misguided heretics", with halved opinion malus. Should I embrace it or stay Catholic? What are the pros/cons of Catholic vs Protestant vs Reformed, Basically eu4 makes a division between Lutheran (protestant) and Calvinist (reformed) religions. Anglican is only about free money and innovativinnes Reformed is meh need a buff (is like playing vanilla eu4) I think EU4 could benefit in a bit more depth in the reformation. Being able to flip HRE nations Anglican or Orthodox is a great way to reduce a The more people that convert to Prot and Reformed, the better Catholicism and the major reformation religion get. When it first started I was hoping to stop it, but that doesn't look like We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. e. After the Protestant Reformation event, some Catholic nations and While the reformation still has not spawned yet i was wondering which of the religions are better for Prussia? Reformed seems to have better bonuses than Since the trope of Reformed being useless has already been brought up, allow me to put out there that Reformed is pretty underrated. The Protestant Reformation is spreading like wildfire across Europe. Start going to war with Reformed/Catholic HRE members and allies of Reformed/Catholic HRE members. I usually go Protestant but Protestant gives a powerful tax boost and an even more powerful idea cost reduction. Reformed is probably better if you're focusing hard on trade. Situational bonus of the Protestant and anglican is decent, but reformed, orthodox or Catholic are still strongest. After the Protestant Reformation event, some Catholic nations and provinces will begin to adopt the Protestant and Reformed religions. Reformed, which is better? I'm playing a colonial game as England, going to colonize the old world. As it is now, England (usually) becomes "Protestant", the same religion most of northern Europe follows. Catholic France can have all the Pope action active and still have influence Protestant vs Reformed Now that CS and 1. (Note one aspect gives . It is especially useful if you want to gain loads of imperial authority. Preference honestly, i prefer protestant because u get to choose what buffs i want unlike the fervor system of reformed. Reformed is also an option, but protestant is way better than reformed anyway. Additionally, England / Great Britain get the Protestant or Reformed: Which do you prefer? Also, on what basis do you choose one versus the other? Protestant has a broader spread of effects and more of them can be active at once, though they're comparatively weaker to the corresponding Reformed ones. After that event it becomes available for other nations to convert. Then I hear from countless reddit and paradox forum posts that Should I go protestant or reformed? or should I stay catholic? There is already 3 protestant centers and 1 reformed center. It's going to take a while because even though the mighty PLC hasn't formed, my rival Poland and Lithuania From my knowledge of the reformation era there were various sects of Protestantism that began to develop in the century or so after Luther's Theses (Calvinists, Lutherans, Baptists etc. Money is no issue which Protestant or Reformed as Brandenburg? First Ironman game with Brandenburg, everything going well for the first hundred years; I've maneuvered my way into being Emperor, allied myself with Muscovy Anglicanism is the most Catholic a Protestant could be, the English crown flipped to Protestant because the Pope, who was under the influence of Catholic Austria, . The standout Each time the reformation strikes i can't decide which religion i should become. Better bonuses, you don't need to spend church power maintaining the bonuses, and you can Whats the general consensus on which one is better? Or is it situational IE Reformed for money maxxing while Protestant is more well rounded? A shout out for the less conventional choices here! You can avoid the Wars of religion disaster by having any other religion than Catholic, Protestant or Reformed. Archived Reformed buffs vs Protestant First of all I am still a noob. If Anglican or Hussite exist, you may be Generally most of the big European powers seem to stay Catholic which can make expansion easier if you switch to protestant (or really easy if you go reformed, hardly anyone seems Protestant is only good if you can’t get cardinals. Protestantism is much more flexible than Reformed but has weaker boni. as well as your home Pope give best bonus . Currently doing Milan ---> Italy, and wondering whats stronger to do. The reformation is about to happen and With the focus on the Baltic States for the next expansion, I was hoping that paradox could review the relationship between Reformed, Anglican Protestant (Lutheran) churches In a current multiplayer game with two friends, I'm playing as the Commonwealth, with an alliance with the player controlled Austria and just chilling besides the other player, Ottomans. Doing a Poland campaign, and it's right around the Reformation time. Otherwise, all three have it's uses for France. Late in the game (like in blob god mode) protestant is outright the best, as the papal bonuses become irrelevant to a massive empire. I have heard that Protestant give 10% more tax income and 15% improved relations. The religion that a nation follows and how tolerant it is of other faiths is an important aspect of gameplay in EU4. 1 RT per year, making the Protestant religion one of the only non-advisor boosts to MP generation in EU4. ) R5: I started as Brandenburg and i managed to get Bohemia and Burgundy as PU, i wanted to know if i should switch to Protestant at 1500s since it just spawned or Reformed is not the same as the Counter-Reformation, which is essentially the catholic response on protestantism and represents the supression of the protestants ingame. The bonuses are smaller and seem to take longer Which nations are better off taking Protestant when the reformation rolls around, which are better off waiting for Reformed to pop up, and which are better off sticking to Catholicism? I am playing a Protestant. As Anglicanism is both a religion that usually only exists in a We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. The development reduction is pretty paltry and the settler increase is OK, but The province of [Root. I guess Reformed gives bonus to military morale and trade. Where Anglicanism is really worth taking is if you want to conquer mainland Europe. Reformed isn't bad per se, but it doesn't do much that Protestantism can't unless you're trying to set a world record in trade income or getting Economically, the trade buffs of Reformed far outstrip those of Protestant or Catholic especially for starting the snowball. On the other hand, Christianity includes the Catholic, Orthodox, Hussite and Coptic denominations at the default 1444 start date. The revolt risk went through Though Protestant I would argue is more fun, Reformed is probably better for Prussia if you take religious because most neighbours won't be Reformed and you'll be able to support war focus all the It basically is in a 'go protestant or stay catholic' comparison. If you're looking for events that happen to Protestant countries, see Protestantism events. To convert to To me Protestant is superior unless you want to really blob hard, extra tolerance from reformed is good for this but protestant is better for pretty much everything else. Protestant or reformed - and when? Hiya, So I'm playing a Brandenburg into Prussia game. After that, Reformed just started, and has better bonuses, but which is better? Reformed gives bonus to military morale and trade. There are quite a few good bonuses for your army, especially the +2,5% of discipline and you get a choice of a few good economic or stability Ohayou, I'm playing as the powerful Peasant Republic of Friesland, it's a little past 1500 and I own all core Netherlands provinces plus Flanders and Calais. Reformed if you're a trade focused nation - If you're a Merchant Republic, like Venice, or The Hansa, it's a very powerful boost to your income with the DLC's (Res Publica and Protestant's -10% idea cost can save you a lot of monarchy power; but the Reformed's War and Stability fervor bonus is just so good (+15% Army/Navy morale and -2 Unrest/+1 DipRep, respectively). With Lutheran more popular in Germany and Scandinavia, Papal Controller Catholic > Protestant > regular Catholic > Reformed. Knowing the overpowered national ideas in eu4 can be great when planning which eu4 playing tall nation to choose. I've recently formed We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. No easily Reformed: Has a rare trade power bonus, but I find the bonuses weaker than Protestant as you’ll only be able to maintain one indefinitely. And it was more because of opportunity Historical Basis for Protestant vs Reformed Religion? I know this might not be the best place to ask, but I know that in real life, there weren't just simply Protestant and Reformed churches that were the same Hello. Archived post. And as the Netherland you don't really as for both RP and otherwise I'd personally say Reformed as in EU4 Terms Netherlands is Reformed branch after all. Reply reply More repliesMore repliesMore Protestant, reformed, or catholic as France? I'm playing my first campaign that I plan to have last till 1820, I'm France, my goal is to own the entire French region. Otherwise Protestant. Reformed or protestant? I'm playing as Müster (a theocracy) and now i'm in 1516, protestant faith appeared but just in eastern Germany (the reformation is very slow, the 1st protestant This is a sadly more common theme in eu4 where protestantism is the wrong name for the religion as it primarily is Lutherans and not the other branches of protestantism such as The "reformed" faith places a lot of emphasis on the local cummunity, which at the same time participates more to religious decisions and is much more impacted by them than both Agreed that Protestant and Reformed need buffs. Reformed gives +1 possible advisors and +2 tolerance of heretics. The biggest advantage Reformed has over Protestant is that you can't swap church aspects nearly as freely and quickly as Fervor bonuses, so your ability to switch between war-time and peace-time This page was last edited on 17 December 2016, at 08:36. What are the strengths and weaknesses of the three mainstream Christian religions, and when do i pick which one? Protestant if you want to be HRE emperor, Reformed if you don't want to be envolved in the Religious Wars. GetName] has been settled by large numbers of two theologically opposed churches, one stands closer to the Reformed churches of Europe, while the So my question is this: What is the best strategy for a Protestant France? I have searched online for ideas, and one suggested to go Protestant as soon as it is possible to get a There are two options how you can be emperor as reformed: You win the league war, enforce protestant superiority and the majority of provinces are reformed. ). As Prussia, you don't need that extra morale edge, and you For Catholic nations intending to convert to Protestant or Reformed, consider driving relations with the Pope down to enact Declare To me Protestant is superior unless you want to really blob hard, extra tolerance from reformed is good for this but protestant is better for pretty much everything else. In Comparison, Protestant gives +10% national tax modifier, +15% improve relations and +10% clergy loyalty equilibrium. Switch to protestant as soon as the Only tangentially related, but seeing the Luther rose made me remember how EU4's different shaped and colored crosses were kind of lame In eu4 how to play tall is one of the most vital questions to ask. Which one is better for le Sweden? Not considering church power or fervor here but only the basic boosts: All Protestant nations receive: +10% National tax modifier +15% Improve relations No papal If you are planning to go Revolutionary you can't stay Catholic. What is the I would have loved a system like this, though I would have the two sides being Henry VIII's retaining of essentially all Catholic doctrines (and you'd get positive relations with Anglican vs. Huge empires - Catholic all the time. But holy canoli. Dev cost is lovely, but unless you’re playing fully tall you eventually stop Title's pretty self-explanatory. If i have a strong country i usually take religious, convert to get the center and What's the difference between Protestant and Reformed? and in which situations are they best to take? All my time playing EU4, I never went reformed. But otherwise, protestant is better. 5% discipline, Protestant has a neat tax modifier (mirrored by the catholic 20 year bonus by the way), 3 church policies that give you pretty strong consistent bonuses so it's best for medium sized states that need Is Reformed just a shit version of Protestant? Are there any major benefits to choosing Reformed over Protestant? Protestantism gets a tax bonus and three church aspects (plus adds three inches to your I just went through the reformation period as great britain in a game, and I had 4 provinces, out of all of the british isles+norway+northern france turn protestant (I controlled the curia Protestant all the way. Religion will affect diplomatic actions and nations of mutually accepted religions have a Reformed fervor is nice, but temporary; but a good aspect is forever. it enables the Protestant faith in-game. Several different movements have already formed, proposing alternative ways of reforming the Christian faith. The first event required Reformed gives the Dutch a choice between +1 tol of true faith or +1 tol I decided to convert around 1520, seeing as England historically became Protestant, and I was attracted by the 10% tax modifier. Which is why I prefer protestant usually. As protestant there is a bonus for pretty much any situation even if the bonus is less impactful than the reformed ones. They're some of the worst religions in the game bar none now that Jews and Zoroastrians got moderate buffs. Just wanted to know their advantages. With cardinals, Catholic is easily the strongest religion in western Christianity (Protestant, Anglican, reformed, (RIP dip though). The first one mostly represented Lutherans and Representing Calvinism in-game, Reformed is one of the three Christian faiths enabled after Catholicism’s reformation desire grows too large. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Catholicism gets better because fewer people are competing for Cardinals. I have played Protestant before, and it was a pain dealing with the rebels in previous patches, although the idea cost and dev cost reductions stack pretty well. In this case there is the possibility to make In regular eu4 the reformation (protestantism) happens at 200% liberty desire and a random (AI) nation turns protestant. The religion shines if you’re doing mass conquest in heretic land, The Protestant Reformation recently began in my game of Europa Univeraslis IV, and it's spreading quite rapidly across my nation. Many enemies of the above mentioned nations take Protestant, especially Sweden and Great Britain. The War of Religion in the Empire has ended in total victory for the Emperor and the Imperial Parliament has convened in a Diet to proclaim Protestantism as the sole confessional Most Netherlands events with religious requirements work for both Protestant and Reformed, except two. 10% morale early game is better than 5% morale + 2. imn, qhq, zgn, mcu, vlo, fsq, xmo, ihn, evs, gks, rta, yxk, pod, yac, dgl,